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Explain the shooting terms on the "Pistol shooting correction chart"

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#1 ·
ok guys and gals this might already be covered here some where but can some one please explain the terms used in this chart so i can use it to achieve better accuracy
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be as descriptive as you can as i get lost in some of the lingo being that im a new shooter
 
#3 ·
RE: shooting terms

I have to say that the most common mistake a I see people make is to shoot low and left (most people being righties and whatnot). This usually indicates anticipating the recoil and squeezing the gun vs just the trigger in a flinching motion. I can never remember the terms as they are laid out on the chart, just the region the shots end up in.
 
#4 ·
RE: shooting terms

Dragoness said:
I have to say that the most common mistake a I see people make is to shoot low and left (most people being righties and whatnot). This usually indicates anticipating the recoil and squeezing the gun vs just the trigger in a flinching motion. I can never remember the terms as they are laid out on the chart, just the region the shots end up in.
Guilty.[hr]
Which one/ones are you wondering about?
 
#6 ·
RE: shooting terms

I have no idea where that came from but.... :D

The chart is telling you what is going on when you pull a shot out of the center. If you find that you are grouping in a given area then you can start looking at the "culprit" as described by the chart. We see lots of trigger slapping and tightening of the grip by beginning shooters. When they start speeding up the pushing and heeling seem to appear in the groups.

Greg
 
#7 ·
RE: shooting terms

THNC said:
Hit the Black Hole!!!

I'm gulity of slapping the trigger it appears.
A pistol is something that you do not wan't to use your pimp hand with apparently.
 
#12 ·
RE: shooting terms

id guess im guilty of jerking or slapping the trigger
thats where all my rounds end up ill try a lighter grip and move the finger a lil better
wow this sounds like some thing way different than shooting +P
 
#13 ·
RE: shooting terms

flacountjr said:
id guess im guilty of jerking or slapping the trigger
thats where all my rounds end up ill try a lighter grip and move the finger a lil better
wow this sounds like some thing way different than shooting +P
Not that I'm a great shooter but I've learned from some dang good experienced folk. Two things to try next time out:

70% of your grip with support hand
30% of your grip with trigger hand

NOW PAY ATTENTION WITH THIS ONE! Trigger control/release - what helps me not get slappy is after each shot simply hold the trigger back and then release it until you feel it click into the ready position. This basically mitigates the slapping action but YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION to your muzzle and make certain it stays on target. If you are shooting once and then pausing before getting back on target, index the trigger finger. The weapon will go off again when you use the release method if you aren't paying attention. It takes practice but makes for better shots.

Anyone else care to jump in... feel free.
 
#14 ·
RE: shooting terms

THNC said:
flacountjr said:
id guess im guilty of jerking or slapping the trigger
thats where all my rounds end up ill try a lighter grip and move the finger a lil better
wow this sounds like some thing way different than shooting +P
Not that I'm a great shooter but I've learned from some dang good experienced folk. Two things to try next time out:

70% of your grip with support hand
30% of your grip with trigger hand

NOW PAY ATTENTION WITH THIS ONE! Trigger control/release - what helps me not get slappy is after each shot simply hold the trigger back and then release it until you feel it click into the ready position. This basically mitigates the slapping action but YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION to your muzzle and make certain it stays on target. If you are shooting once and then pausing before getting back on target, index the trigger finger. The weapon will go off again when you use the release method if you aren't paying attention. It takes practice but makes for better shots.

Anyone else care to jump in... feel free.
Good advice there. I try to visualize a straight line parallel to the bore that I am trying to pull the trigger along. Straight back into my hand. This works for slow fire and humped up 12 rounds in five seconds. That and indexing my index finger toward the target along the top of the dust cover.

I do grip the pistol much more with my trigger hand hand the support is about the reverse numbers you use. It works for me. Lots of guys like 50/50 but I find if I want to really shoot a hard fast string you I have to really bear down with the strong/shooting hand.

Greg
 
#15 ·
Learn your sights, Don't sight to long or your vision will start to blurr, control your breathing..Ie.. breath in and out at a relaxed pace, when exhaled ( air is out of lungs) Hold, Sight and Squeeze the round off. Start again....Once this becomes the learned technique, you can increase your repetitions or rate of fire and be more confident that your grouping and shot placements will be tighter and accurate!
 
#16 ·
Noname88 said:
ok guys and gals this might already be covered here some where but can some one please explain the terms used in this chart so i can use it to achieve better accuracy
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be as descriptive as you can as i get lost in some of the lingo being that im a new shooter
So I can paste this on the floor to see why I shoot so bad? :hilarious:
 
#17 ·
Noname88 said:
id guess im guilty of jerking or slapping the trigger
thats where all my rounds end up ill try a lighter grip and move the finger a lil better
wow this sounds like some thing way different than shooting +P
If you're a righty and shooting left, low/left then you need a stronger left hand grip and relax your right hand a bit and pull the trigger straight back with the pad of your trigger finger. You shouldn't have a death grip with your right hand and too much of your trigger finger "around" or "over" the trigger.

Slowly squeeze in the take up until you get to the trigger wall then slowly continue pressure straight back not anticipating when it will break.

Strong left hand, front site focus and and slow squeeze straight back through the brake without anticipating it.

Take a pistol shooting class too, I've taken a couple and learned something new and helpful each time.
 
#18 ·
Here is the simplified version:

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#19 ·
Until you "learn where the trigger is", you may never do well. Dry fire is your friend. Until you learn where the trigger starts and where the trigger breaks, you will anticipate the shot. Until you learn "where the trigger is" the barrel will always move just before the shot. Dry fire will teach.
The term "milking the gun" is tried and true of semi-auto shooters. They pull the trigger with four fingers. And with too much finger around the trigger. Result-low left. That is if you are right handed.
The DA pistol or revolver is a little different. Most start the trigger well but wind jerking the trigger.
If you have the will power to simply stand/sit there, even with a rest, and squeeze the trigger slowly until the round fires and SURPRISES you, then you are on your way.

Now when you get this good, you will be awesome. Mrborland is a local shooter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmy5mkjpUNI