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When I can't Concealed Carry/My Other Friend

4.8K views 52 replies 14 participants last post by  harbinger  
#1 ·
Sometimes, going into courthouses, DMV and other restricted places, you just shouldn't and can't carry. Same applies if you want to drink hard liquor or any liquor for that matter while dining out, carrying concealed will risk losing your CHP. As of late, I have been training in the martial arts defensive cane use. As I said before, I am 80 years old. No leg speed left; but, my hands and arms are still fast and strong. A good stout hardwood cane of 1" thickness is an awesome weapon when used properly. I can take it anywhere, even on commercial airlines. You can pay as little as $9 or $300 for a "fighting" cane. They all work if you devote as little as 1 hour a day to practice and hone your skills. I still practice my karate and kung fu forms which have been with me from childhood. However, adding defensive cane fighting skills after passing the age to collect social security has enhanced my defensive options. A cane gives you much better stand-off distance chances of delivering disabling blows; and, devasting close-quarter power strikes that easily break bones or effortless leveraged take-downs. There are many UTube videos to demonstrate the effectiveness of canes. Most states consider martial arts tools such as nun-chucks as deadly weapons and classify carrying them concealed or openly as a felony. I know of no such laws for a "walking" cane. I am ever vigilant when out in the streets at my age, particularly in parking lots. You cannot always maintain a stand-off distance, particularly in busy areas like shopping malls. A stout cane carried without a limp is almost as effective as open carry and no one calls a cop on you. Suspicious characters will always size-up a potential victim like any predator will do before attacking a prey. When they see that stout cudgel, they wisely look elsewhere. My handgun is always my last option, although I am glad it is there. I will settle for my cane in a knife fight; but, against a gun...not so much. That said, I can deploy it much faster than my gun, because it is already in my hand. If the perp is up close, then the cane may be the better choice, yet.
 
#2 ·
Reminds me of these canes/walking sticks I used to see at truck stops and other places called a Bubba Stick. Looks like a decent sized tree limb stripped of bark and sealed with some type of lacquer about 36 inches long some have designs carved in them or ornate heads. Wanted one but never pulled the trigger and bought one. In my opinion it’s a viable self defense option.
 
#7 · (Edited)
Met a lady who makes walking sticks and wood burns church Hymns onto the stick for folks. She does terrific works and calls her little company Walk With Hymn. Bought a walking stick from her as a going away gift for our pastor who was changing churches at the time. Bought my next one with my wife's favorite hymn wood burned into the stick as a gift for my wife. Called her a few days later just before Obummer was elected and asked her if she'd make one for me with my ten personal beliefs on it. She told me she only did hymns but after reading the list I sent to her she agreed with all ten and said she'd make that one exception. You can see some of her work at http://walkwithhymn.blogspot.com/
 
#11 ·
Concealed Carry Magazine has an article on using a walking stick to defend yourself with. I studied martial arts when I was young. I got all the way to a red belt with a black tip but that was in 1974 with Young Il Kong's International Tae Kwon Do Federation. I am 66 years old now and my body is a wreck from extreme whitewater kayaking and running. I have been seriously thinking of getting a stout cane to help me walk and to defend myself when my handgun is not accessible. Thanks for the great post!
 
#12 ·
I make some canes when I see a limb or sapling that's just crying out to become one. I picked it up from a BIL that was a tree trimmer. I haven't started using a cane but thanks to Kassar I can envision some circumstances where I may do so. I can see the need for some training and practice as one would not want an opponent to gain control of it.
 
#13 ·
Just like being proficient with a handgun, carrying a martial arts cane takes practice. I rotate every other day from martial arts to handgun drills because these old muscles take longer to quit aching, LOL. There was a time when a good burn felt great in a few hours. Now, I just get plain tired.
 
#23 ·
Caveat-
A close reading and research of NC Gen. Statute 14-269 leaves me to believe that although NC does not consider the ownership, carrying or possessing a sword cane while on one's premises unlawful, it is illegal to carry a sword cane in public even though sheathed as it constitutes a concealed weapon not exempted by a licensed CHP holder. The CHP is what it states. It permits you to carry in public a concealed handgun....NOT a concealed rifle, dagger, sword or bowie knife or any other bladed instrument concealed that cannot be folded and carried in your pocket which does not have a spring blade, or can be opened with a throwing action, etc. Anyone is invited to correct me if I am wrong.
 
#29 ·
When you consider all the hours we spend in law school and studying, particularly for the state bar...then the hours of continuing education and research to effectively represent a client, a plumber makes much more per hour over a lifetime. I don't even want to talk about the insurance for malpractice costs, office rental, legal secretary or law clerk help and suits you have to buy. Get the picture?
 
#31 · (Edited)
In my case there is one heir, no mortgage and no debts.

North Carolina General Statute § 28A-15-2 states that: “The title to real property of a decedent is vested in the decedent's heirs as of the time of the decedent's death; but the title to real property of a decedent devised under a valid probated will becomes vested in the devisees and shall relate back to the decedent's death, subject to the provisions of G.S. 31-39”

Ridiculous fees; $500 for simple will and $295 for POA. I think I will at least go ahead and print a POA and take it to a notary while I decide between printing an on-line will template or hand writing a holographic will. The online stuff has too many pages and clauses whereas holographic can be a single paragraph. The POA is seven pages, damn the lawyers.
 
#32 ·
S28A-15 doesn't say that title passes by operation of law. It says it vests. This means you have to open a probate to get a court order to determine validity of heirship to record the vesting. The title does not automatically pass even though it is vested by law. The decree of heirship signed by a judge after you prove up your heirship through a chain of birth certificates, publication in the newspapers to allow any other heirship claimant to contest your heirship, etc. (it is a lengthy process) has to be recorded by the county recorder to give you legal transferable title. Most of the time, this is done by the title company's lawyers. When you add another party to your legal title on real estate or personalty as a joint tenant with right of servivorship, all you need to do is notorize an affadavit of death of joint tenant together with a certified copy of the death certificate and record it with the recorder's office or if a vehicle, take same to DMV along with the title to transfer to a third party.
 
#34 ·
He did an estate sale (you can do that without opening probate if the total value of the estate is under certain amount) and had you and your brother sign disclaimers to vesting, then distributed the proceeds to you two. If the sale amount was below her exemption of $250K between the price she bought it and the sales price, there was no capital gains taxes; but, if it was above that, escrow withheld 15% above the exempted amount for the IRS in escrow because you and your brother did not get the "stepped-up base" by getting title through probate in an intestate proceeding before the sale.
 
#36 ·
I am not going to debate that you sold the property, but there is definitely a step missing. Without an heirship decree, that sale can be challenged. For instance, since there was no probate, someone may come up with a marriage certficate and say he had no knowledge of her death, then move to attach the proceeds from the sale. There is a probate statute that closes the estate unless an unnoticed party appears. The sale is final because a third party bought it. But, a claim of heirship is still available to attach the proceeds since there was no court hearing or public notice. Not to worry though, it only occurs rarely.
 
#37 ·
I broke a bone in my foot, one of the tiny ones.... Not sure how or when it happened, but I got a cane to help keep weight off it while it was healing. Finding a cane that would support my weight that didn't look ridiculous wasn't easy. I found a place called Cane Masters that sold heavy duty canes and taught how to use them for self defense. I also remember a guest instructor came to my Aikido class once to teach cane techniques. Ever since then I have kept one in the car so I can take it into places where other items are not allowed. I have a Cold Steel version with a skull on the end.... About a pound of steel on the end of an "unbreakable" shaft can be quite formidable.

I have had sciatica flare ups and a gout attack that made me thankful I had the cane handy since then. I am only 46 now so who knows what other reasons I will find to use it for in the future?
 
#38 ·
A lawyer stopped up his toilet, and he could not unstop it with a plunger. He called a plumber. The plumber came out, unstopped it with a "closet snake" and handed him a bill for $550.

The lawyer said, " YIKES! I'm a lawyer and don't charge that much". To which the plumber replied "I know, that's why I quit practicing law"
 
#39 ·
I hired a lawyer who put all my stuff in a "revocable trust". Somehow that saves me or my successors money and hassle after I die. It was kinda steep at $3000(included advance medical directive and such) but my dad's estate, which he had "cleaned up". Cost $10k to settle without this. I think it keeps the belongings out of the hands of the government.....but I'm an engineer not a lawyer.
 
#42 ·
You should shop around. Some law firms charge less for a simple revocable trust. With today's inheritance tax exemptions, an individual can pass on his properties through various means and still not incur an inheritance tax without a trust. Last year's exemption was more than $12m for a single person and twice that amount for a married couple. However, there are other taxes to worry about as well. I charged $3k for an AB trust and more for a Clifford trust; but, I simple trust should not be more than 10 pages and throwing in a durable power of attorney or medical directive is a given when writing trusts.
 
#40 ·
My DIL used to work for a lawyer. She did the work the stuff's all in the word processor all they have to do is print it out. The only expertise is selecting the clauses. She was also a notary but after she changed jobs she dropped that because there are some associated liability risks. I just got the bright idea of having her select the right template for me. She also recently served as executor for an uncle's estate so she knows the ropes. Another plus her BFF works for the Clerk of the Court. If the lawyer was still practicing law he was the kind of fellow that I could just stroll in and ask for a $100 will. He quit his practice to go back to being an OTR trucker.
 
#41 · (Edited)
I am thinking of maybe weighting a cane in an inconspicuous manner. Maybe drilling a hole and stuffing it with lead. If I had a crucible I could melt some old wheel weights. I recall when kids got kits for casting tin soldiers for Christmas.

edit: I have a friend who used to cast his own bullets. He's about my age maybe I can reconnect with him and we can conspire together, I think he uses a cane now.
 
#50 ·
Lawyers are like cops. Despised and disparaged until needed. A few bad lawyers make the whole profession look bad. The American Bar Association charges as much as the American Medical Association but does not spend a dime on public relations. Doctors kill more patients than cops kill people on the streets; but, you will almost never see a quack or unethical doctor portrayed on TV or the movies. The AMA would be on the entertainment industry in a heartbeat. Doctors are always portrayed as saints.