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ar muzzle brake vs compensator

4.9K views 13 replies 8 participants last post by  t42beal13t  
#1 ·
Ok, so lookin to get a new flash hider, muzzle brake, compensator. What's the difference. I know what the flash hider is, and does. But a comp/flash, or comp/brake. Lookin at a couple yhm ones. Don't wanna scare off everyone on the range, but also trying to stay under $50. (I know I'm cheap)
 
#2 ·
Dragon21 said:
Ok, so lookin to get a new flash hider, muzzle brake, compensator. What's the difference. I know what the flash hider is, and does. But a comp/flash, or comp/brake. Lookin at a couple yhm ones. Don't wanna scare off everyone on the range, but also trying to stay under $50. (I know I'm cheap)
Comp/brake will help keep muzzle rise down BUT tends to make the blast louder because it directs the blast up and out. There is a linear comp that direct the blast directly forward (sound and pressure) so it makes the shooter and those to each side happier.
 
#3 ·
I put one of these on my Draco: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=pws+fsc+47&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=6670371352486965174&sa=X&ei=dxYVTqXmO6Ty0gGm-Mg0&ved=0CB0Q8wIwAQ
A bit more than I wanted to spend, but it's fantastic!
 
#4 ·
Because I'm shooting prone or off the bench 90% of the time, I need to make sure its only blowing gas out the top. I'm guessing most do that now adays correct? Also because of the position I'm shooting, and not shooting quickly, I'm guessing maybe a brake/ comp won't do much?
 
#5 ·
Dragon21 said:
Because I'm shooting prone or off the bench 90% of the time, I need to make sure its only blowing gas out the top. I'm guessing most do that now adays correct? Also because of the position I'm shooting, and not shooting quickly, I'm guessing maybe a brake/ comp won't do much?
Look at a Kies Linear Comp ...

http://www.kiesfirearms.com/Parts_and_Accessories.html

they are not Noveske Flaming Pigs but work pretty dang good.
 
#6 ·
Dragon21 said:
Because I'm shooting prone or off the bench 90% of the time, I need to make sure its only blowing gas out the top. I'm guessing most do that now adays correct? Also because of the position I'm shooting, and not shooting quickly, I'm guessing maybe a brake/ comp won't do much?
Many of the systems direct it up and to the sides. Some to the sides only. A $50.00 limit tales lots of the comps out of the choice arena. Shooting prone or bench can get loud real quick fore those around you. Stay AWAY from the JB muzzle break or the Clark as they are loud. I run a Miculek on a 6 PPC (custom rebore) but the comp is very effective for muzzle rise. It directs the gas to the sides and front and I feel it is very efficient. They are right at $50.00. Here is Brownell's blurb but they can be had cheaper. MICULEK

The best comp I have ever run is the DTA Mil Brake. Old School but I will put it up with any of the modern ones. I'm not sure what the current cost is but I run it on an M16 and they work great.

Greg
 
#7 ·
To purchase an effective one, you really need to expand your budget. Are you ever going to run suppressed? If not, please don't get a break. I will want to punch you in the throat if we're ever on the line together.

Go with a BattleComp. It will provide great muzzle control while not providing your neighbors with the sound of someone knocking on their windows.

Buy once, cry once.
 
#8 ·
Went with a yhm phantom 5c2 I think. Saving for the new xdm so budget was tight. I'll end up getting. Better one for my 9mm ar.
 
#11 ·
Nato_Republic said:
Um, recoil and muzzle rise are problems on AR-15's? I have built 2 and fired many, never had a problem with either on a 5.56 rifle.
Recoil, not so much due to the buffer/ spring assy. But muzzle rise is an issue when firing multiple shots rapidly. A decent compensator will direct gases upward thereby forcing the muzzle downward slightly in an effort to help compensate for the movement.

Is it necessary? Well, that all depends on what conditions you are shooting under. Killing coffee cans in the sand pits probably won't require much in this regard. Trying to lay down a good, accurate base of fire for protective purposes is another story. As well, people who are desiring every little benefit toward winning matches would definitely need every advantage they can think of.
 
#12 ·
rotorhead said:
Nato_Republic said:
Um, recoil and muzzle rise are problems on AR-15's? I have built 2 and fired many, never had a problem with either on a 5.56 rifle.
Recoil, not so much due to the buffer/ spring assy. But muzzle rise is an issue when firing multiple shots rapidly. A decent compensator will direct gases upward thereby forcing the muzzle downward slightly in an effort to help compensate for the movement.

Is it necessary? Well, that all depends on what conditions you are shooting under. Killing coffee cans in the sand pits probably won't require much in this regard. Trying to lay down a good, accurate base of fire for protective purposes is another story. As well, people who are desiring every little benefit toward winning matches would definitely need every advantage they can think of.
The comp for muzzle rise is very helpful in matches or even on deployment. The less time getting back down the quicker shots # 2,3, 4 etc go on down range. Aimed semi-auto fire is devastating and in a match the harder you go the more you win if you are hitting.

The comp really comes in on the full auto guns if we get to drag them out. My DTA on my little 10" gun will make shot #3 of a burst almost exactly where shot #1 went. Very helpful on an assault course. Mine is even indexed to shove it down into my right hand as I shoot left handed and that really helps on staying on target with a burst.

The comp is not needed in courses that are relatively slow in speed but , as was mentioned, every little bit helps.

Greg